My Story

Hi guys,

I don’t usually turn to forums when I have to get something off my chest, but I think I’ve come to a point where I need people who understand my predicament, and this seems like the best place to turn. I’ll write out my story and I hope that some of you will read it, and maybe I’ll feel a bit more hopeful. It’s going to be very long - there’s a lot of detail so I apologise in advance but I don’t want to leave anything out.

I’ll start my story with a preface. I’m an 18 year old male, from Ireland. My ex is a 19 year old girl from England. We met in the summer of 2011 on a holiday and got together in April 2012. We were in a long distance relationship from then until May 2014.

Basically, we’ve always clicked. From our very first conversation we just gel extremely well, no effort is required on either of our parts to converse : we’ve always seemed to just flow naturally. We met in July 2011, when I was 15 and she 16. We had some romantic suggestions on the original holiday but didn’t really act on them; we went 9 months talking a lot, being friends until she came to visit the following Easter. It was immediately obvious to both of us that we had a special bond and although neither of us were in a particularly suitable place for a relationship (so young and living in different countries), after a few weeks of in betweening we decided we were a couple. I and she both felt the other was simply too special to allow the distance intervene.

The next two years went a little like this : We’d take it in turns to fly over and visit each other, spending pretty much every penny we earned on visits and trips. Due to me being in a boarding school, time and funds were fairly limited, which meant we were only really able to see one another every two months. Although that was hard on both of us, we made it work by speaking all day every day on Facebook Messenger, and video Skyping every night. Each visit was the highlight of the season, and each one ended with us holding one another in bed crying, proclaiming ‘‘Forever wouldn’t be enough’’. We had an incredibly strong bond and love, she supported me through hard times and I did the same for her. We lost our virginities to one another and really were each others ‘firsts’ in pretty much every way. She would often tell me that I was the only boy she had ever felt properly attracted to, that I was the most beautiful person she’d ever laid eyes on and she spent a good deal of time trying to convince me of such. She made a big deal of how attractive she found me, and I honestly did feel the same about her. We’d often talk about married life and this is no way scared us. We were as sure in each other as it was possible to be. Our shared dream was to go to university together, thus closing the gap and letting us have a proper ‘‘in person’’ relationship with never having to say goodbye. This was what we worked towards for two whole years, both of us really really hard.

I can’t emphasise enough how much we both invested in this relationship, or quite how strong it was, the words literally are not in my vocabulary. I could never imagine an end to it and I don’t think she could either.

With that said, it was by no means perfect. Anyone who has done long distance will know that it has a habit of exaggerating every little problem that would be totally insignificant in person. In all honesty, it was largely my fault. I behaved terribly towards her on many occasions. I was never unfaithful to her - I never even looked at other girls, but I had a habit of being stifling and controlling, guilting her when she went out with her friends or when she was too busy to speak to me. I made her feel like I resented her interests and hobbies. I’d get annoyed at photos of her with other boys, I was paranoid and jealous. Basically, I was petulant and mean spirited, and she put up with far more than she should have had to. I don’t make excuses for my behavior; it was mine alone and no circumstance can mitigate it. At my worst, I became upset with her for wanting to do veterinary as it was more difficult to get into, thus negatively affecting our chances of ending up at uni together. Looking back, I have no idea why I behaved in this way. I’m not a mean or even particularly selfish person. I did genuinely care about her and I didn’t ever mean to cause her harm. I suppose the best I can say is that I let my insecurities both about myself and about us get the better of me, and that I wasn’t suited to a long distance relationship. However, after an argument we would always make up, and even any lasting resentment would be instantly washed away when we’d see each other in person. It wiped the slate clean when we saw one another and realised that all of our problems and trials were worth it. I think it’s also worth pointing out that we never fought in person - never even a small argument. We didn’t have any of those problems in person; they only manifested themselves over Messenger.

This year, I was doing my final exams, and she, having done hers the year before, was taking a gap year to work and do some traveling. Everything was going pretty swimmingly, we got to see each other more often and in March we had a final visit before she went to Thailand for 2 months. It was wonderful, we kissed goodbye at the airport and this time it wasn’t devastating as we knew when we saw one another next (June) I’d be finished my exams and we’d have nearly closed the gap. We were the epitome of solidarity, like a couple who’s been married for years.
When she did go to Thailand, we started having serious problems. I was in the middle of pre exam preparations and her being so far away in such an infamous place really messed me up. We argued almost every day, about nearly nothing and I (stupidly) threatened to break up with her on multiple occasions. Again, although I was under tremendous pressure, I don’t make excuses. It was an unacceptable way to behave when she was doing her utmost to enjoy herself. We managed to stick through about a month, when the unthinkable happened.

She went to a new place to volunteer with elephants. There were lots of new people her age there and I started getting antsy. She began acting funny with me for a few days and I backed off, trying to be as accommodating as I could and not lose my temper. However, one day she told me she didn’t feel she was on the same wavelength anymore. I was crushed, and I wrote a long email begging her to stay, trying to remind her of all the beauty in our relationship and how our future that we’d worked so hard for was just around the corner. The next day, she told me she had met someone else and fallen in love, and that she no longer loved me.

I was crushed. I didn’t get out of bed for two days, I cried myself to a dangerously dehydrated state. I was totally unable to cope, and this was just three weeks before my final exams which would determine whether I got into uni or not.

I tried begging through a limited back and forth between us over the next few days but she was incredibly angry and was having none of it. She was quick to tell me that the part about meeting someone else was a lie, she simply felt that to get me to let her go she needed to play on my worst fear. Although I was hurt beyond words, I just wanted her back and I couldn’t hold a grudge. It didn’t help though, and she sent me an email a few days later after some space telling me there was no chance we would ever get back together. I didn’t respond. I was advised by a close teacher to simply not contact her at all. So I didn’t. I ignored the email and tried to move on for about two weeks.

Over the next few weeks she sent me various messages begging me to contact her, that she didn’t know if breaking up was the right thing to do, etc., but I didn’t bite. We eventually spoke and she said we would see each other when she was home and we would decide on what to do. She further traveled on to Australia for another few weeks afterwards while I did my best to do my exams. Somehow I managed to do them, and although outwardly I tried moving on I got absolutely nowhere.

She came back from Australia and after a few days of hearing nothing I caved in and asked when we would be seeing each other. She replied that she was now happy being broken up and asked me how I felt, but I didn’t answer. From that point on, every two weeks almost on the dot she sent me emails or messages trying to ‘‘clarify things’’, which basically consisted of her telling me I was beautiful and amazing and that she just needed to be alone, etc. I ignored all of these, but once she got angry when she saw photos of me on Facebook out with friends and I gave in and spoke to her. This time she once again said she didn’t know if breaking up was right and we should see one another. I was delighted, and I waited a few weeks but heard nothing.

By this time it was mid summer, and I was getting anxious, so I sent her a message asking her what was going on. She now had done a complete 180, telling me she only wanted to see me for closure and she was very cruel and mean, telling me she didn’t love me at all and that we would never ever be together and I should stop being delusional. I told her I felt we were meant to be and she laughed in my face. I said I was still going to the uni we had planned and that I thought we couldn’t not be together, and she again laughed at me. I was upset but I went again, and I didn’t contact her again. I still felt despite everything that we had a future.

A few weeks later, I was about to get my exam results when I got a barrage of messages from her, which I again ignored. She tried calling me and again I ignored her. She then sent me an email telling me she was rash and angry and she didn’t believe I could get in to the uni in question, but if I could of course she would want to try again and have a fresh start. She told me she missed me like crazy and that I should speak to her. The next day I got my results, which somehow turned out pretty good, and I was so elated that I answered one of her calls. We spoke, had a laugh and agreed we would both like a fresh start.

This brings the story to the modern day. For the last weeks of the summer, we spoke every day just like we once had. We built it up and she was very emotional about us, and I did everything I could to make her feel better and to assure her things would be very different. Although it was never really said, we were back together, with her even telling me at one point that I wasn’t single. She told me that when people met as young as we did, there’s always a point when you need to make sure you’re doing the right thing, and that she came back because she truly loved me and she knew it. We told each other we loved each other, talked about what it would be like in the next two weeks when we lived near one another, and it was perfect. I was so happy to have her back and I showed her that my behavior was totally different. It was literally going perfectly. Then, a few days before we were due to move, she went back to saying we’ll see and she didn’t know if we’d be together.

I was really upset, but I agreed to wait and see. This Saturday just gone, I moved into the uni and she did too. We saw one another by accident just a few hours after arriving. We clicked just like we always did, had a total laugh and made some new friends. We ended up sitting in her room looking at one another, and when I got up to go to bed, she asked for a hug, so I gave her one. We stood there for ages holding one another, then we looked each other in the eyes and she stroked my face, and we were both beaming. It felt just like it always had. I didn’t kiss her, I just went and over the next two days she kept texting me and asking to meet up, which we did. We just sat talking and laughing, and it was nice, but I wanted to make some progress. On Monday I asked her what was going on and she said she didn’t know if she loved me. I was upset, especially after the past few weeks when she had told me she was still madly in love with me and that she was sure. She left and the next day I didn’t see or hear from her. I invited her to come watch a movie with me and she said yes, but then at the very last minute told me she was going out with friends instead. I didn’t make any fuss, but then when she didn’t contact me again yesterday I asked her to come see me. She very reluctantly did and I told her how much I loved her and how much I wanted to be hers and make us both so happy. I said every thing I could think of. She was in tears but she told me that she didn’t love me anymore, she didn’t want to be mine, and that she felt nothing for me anymore (even though she was obviously still angry about some of the stuff in our past, although she insisted she wasn’t). I asked how that was even possible after she had been so sure two weeks ago, and she replied she didn’t know. I pointed out how many times she had changed her mind already, but she had no response. She said I shouldn’t have come here just for her, and left. She offered me a kiss in response to my stating that I wanted to kiss her again, but that it wouldn’t mean anything. I didn’t take that offer. She left anyway, and I went to bed last night a wreck again.

So, now I’m in quite the sticky situation. I’m in university in a foreign country, with no friends or relations nearby, and if that’s not bad enough, she somehow ended up living literally right across the street from me (I can see her window from mine), something we deliberately didn’t talk about so we could avoid this type of situation. We eat in the same room everyday. I have literally no escape and so the NC rule might only have limited effectiveness. I will be seeing her every day and I’m not very good at pretending. It doesn’t help that she is very popular and has lots of new friends and I’m not finding it so easy. I told myself there were lots of other reasons for coming here but I think I may have tricked myself.

I took a chance on hoping before and I’m afraid of doing it again. I want her back so badly I can taste it, I really do believe that much of our worst moments were just circumstance and that if we gave it a chance in person it could flourish. I think we came much too far to not give it a fair chance. Our love was real and good and pure and I think it really enriched our lives, even if the relationship maybe didn’t. I also don’t believe that her feelings disappeared that quickly, especially not when it seemed to be going so well when we first saw one another. Love doesn’t just vanish like that.

So guys, what do I do? I’m a wreck and I need help :frowning:

Thanks so much for reading.

Considering how many times she has said she doesn’t love you or your relationship won’t work and then ends up coming back means she is most likely by over it now.
You may be at the same uni now and see eachother a lot but what I think you should do is try as hard as you can to do the NC for a month atleast. When around her act fine and happy and confident. If she tried speaking to you in person just be cool a nd subtle. Just say get how’s it going then go on. If she tried texting you don’t text back. And don’t text her trying to meet up or hangout. And if she does don’t do it until the NC is over and you feel a little better and have healed a lot. Show her a confident and happy you! Try and out yourself out there and make new friends! Go out and have fun! Maybe even go on a date or two nothing serious just for fun. Don’t do it in spite of her though and try to make her jealous. Just seriously stick to the 5 step plan. It’ll be hard but it’s what you need to do. You have hope.

Thanks so much for reading, I know its a struggle!

Do you think? She seemed very much not over it for the most of August and much of September, up until a week ago she seemed as if she was genuinely in love with me and had realised it. I get the sense like she is proud of having left me and that coming back to me would almost feel like admitting defeat to her. She was so eager to see me and hang out when I first arrived here, and I honestly thought things were going really well up until the second I asked what was going on. Maybe I pushed too quickly?

She’s certainly not beyond saying things she doesn’t mean, or that she changes her mind on, as this isn’t anything she hasn’t said before (I don’t think you’re the one for me, I don’t love you, I don’t want to try again) and then gone back on and said the exact opposite, and I really don’t believe that the love she felt for me over the last month and the excitement I saw in her eyes the other night when she saw me just vanished at the whim of a badly timed question. If she’s sounding extremely bipolar and changeable then I’m giving the right impression, as that’s exactly how I feel. She’s since messaged me just once saying I should think about my reasons for being here. I haven’t responded.

I don’t know if the excitement of starting university and the maybe slightly overhyped act of actually seeing one another again have confused her. Maybe I gave the impression I came here specifically for her and that made me seem needy and desperate. Does anyone think I have a chance here? I’m really torn, because I feel we haven’t been given a fair chance and I do really love her, but I’m terrified that this time she means it.

Please help :frowning:

First, you need to be calm.

Analyze the situation. When you keep going after her, tell her how much you love her etc. she just retreats.That’s the case in almost every “broken” relationship. There is just no balance. Just like they say “It takes two to tango.”

Try to start your own life there, make some friends. That’s how you not look as needy, dependent person. And truth to be told, you need that yourself whether you are with her or without her. I’m in same situation as you, except like 10000kms away from my family and friends and I feel alone every single day. In my relationship, that was one of the things my gf pointed out. “Make some friends.” Eventually she broke up. I probably sounded dependent eventhough ironically I had perfect communication with girls and other people before I met her. But that is another story.

What I mean to say is that if you show her you don’t need her to live your life, that will look attractive to her! The whole bipolar behavior will vanish sooner rather than later. You even have an advantage here. You know that? She cannot escape seeing you! She will observe you every single day. So use that!

Don’t meet up with her every time she asks. And you don’t ask her either. Let her be for a while. I know it is hard for you at the moment but this is an adversity you must overcome. There is no escape. So get out there, have some fun. Be confident.

After some time, her stubborness and shield will go down. Then, you make your move and reward her. With a meeting, treating her dinner, sharing common activities. Hell, if the mood is right with a kiss!

I wish you luck, and I’m sure your situation will turn out well :slight_smile:

I didn’t know whether to see that as an advantage or a disadvantage. I really don’t know what to think anymore :frowning: She was saying she wasn’t sure on Sunday and absolutely no on Monday? Just doesn’t add up. Did I scare her by asking? Pushing her to see me?

She said to me on the day we started talking again in August ‘‘We’re like Ross and Rachel - With us, it’s never off the table.’’ I sometimes feel that, given the fact we live right next to one another and will see each other quite often, that we have too much history for there to be no love between us, regardless of what she says about not loving me. I know probably everyone says this but I think we’ve always had that quality.

I’m just really confused and dunno what to do. NC worked for me all summer so maybe I should keep on that way and hope for the best again, but I’ve also read Relationship Rewind and it makes a kind of sense. The only problem is I dunno if I’m at the Drift or Death’s Door stage (she hasn’t at all tried to distance herself from me) and also I don’t think I’m capable of maintaining the emotional detachment that the False Friendship method requires…

I’m glad people seem to think I have hope. I always feel so hopeless after she has a tirade like that :frowning:

Anyone got any advice for me?

Please guys? :frowning:

anybody?

Okay so I’ve seen her since a couple times. I had a strange experience when I saw her out my window coming back from a night out and she looked up and saw me there. She looked at me for a bit then turned around and went in, only to storm back out a few minutes later, and started walking towards my door. A friend came out after her and said something along the lines of “We were only joking”. She then replied “I’m fine” in an angry tone of voice and looked at me again before going back inside. The next morning she sent me a message saying hey, sorry and that she didn’t mean to blank me, that she just looked up and it took her by surprise. I didn’t answer and a little while later she sent me another saying she hoped I was settling in well. Again I didn’t answer.

A few days later she was going on a freshers even specific to her course and I was going to an audition for a musical, she saw me on the bus and gave me a smile, but I didn’t smile back. When I got off the bus, I got a text saying “Good luck, you’ll be amazing”, she had somehow worked out where I was going. Again I didn’t reply.

Later that evening a friend and I went to the supermarket, and ran into her and a friend coming home at the bus stop. This was really early, like 10 O clock, which is unusual for her (she really wants to get involved in stuff, make the most of uni) and as far as I could see she was perfectly sober. They slowed down but I walked right by and didn’t say anything.

Just last night there was a fire drill, and everyone had to get out of bed and assemble on the lawn. We came across one another outside my front door and she waved at me, I pretended not to see. When we were walking back then I noticed her glancing behind, and once she saw me she stopped and continue talking to her friends, acting nonchalant. I don’t like to read that too much but I think she was looking for me as all her friends were either beside or in front of her.

I have no doubt there will be more encounters like these, we’re in very close proximity. I can’t at all get a read on her behavior :frowning: it’s hugely confusing. She obviously doesn’t like being ignored and she has tried texting a few times, but if she was really desperate to talk to me she could easily just walk up and start talking. Am I doing the right thing? My female flat mates seem to think so, and I’m pretty sure it’s bothering her and on her mind but what do I do now? Wait for her to crack?

Please help :frowning:

Do not talk to her. And when she comes back begging for your love( which she probably will) say no, say that your tired of her emotional roller coaster. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. And honey you are not the only one wrong in this story you’ve already said you’re sorry so your mind is free. She is the one who has to make up her mind and grow up cause this is really immature.

I can agree with laurais13. Now I wont lie I scim read your story but I would say definitely nc! She’s a teenager they are always a pain haha. Don’t panic, get your mind in a happy state :slight_smile: personally I wouldn’t say out right “no” I would say that you need more time/space.

Thanks so much for reading guys :slight_smile: It means a lot. I’m sorry its so long but I think the details are important.

I am hopeful. She texted me again today saying ‘‘Well done for Grease :)’’ (she was on the mailing list for the drama society and I was listed as being a cast member). I dunno why she keeps trying to text me as I’ve literally never responded to one of her messages like that. Her motives are really confusing. My female friends seem to think that by giving me these little bits to keep me on the hook in case she changes her mind again, keep me hanging on. I think that makes sense, even if she’s only doing it subconsciously.

I guess it just throws me that she can literally see the light in my room and has seen me in person but doesn’t come to try and talk to me. I don’t understand it, I really don’t. Sometimes I see her out my window and she seems to be looking up checking if I’m there. It’s hard to tell so I can’t say for sure but I think I’ve seen this a few times. Also she could have come over either of the times she’s seen me out and about, but chose instead to smile and wave. Do you think there’s a reason she’s staying away?

So hard to keep a level head :frowning:

Its pretty hard, relationships are pretty hard and we are crazy, human beings dont make sense when it comes to feelings. But you didnt lose her forever. I did lost mine forever, but you havent screwed up so bad like I did. So have faith.

I really really hope not. I’m not a woman so I really really don’t understand her behavior and it’s messing with my head so much :frowning:

My gut feeling/instincts say that right now she is confused and distracted and excited by uni and will come back eventually but sometimes I’m so down about it that I feel terrified I’m wrong. I mean, she was so excited about us being back together and telling me she loved me and she was sure etc etc., how does that just vanish? And her behavior when we first saw one another was so affectionate and happy, it was not just a friendly way, you don’t put your arms around someone’s neck, stroke their face and stare into their eyes and smile as their friend (though that’s what she claims).

Now that I think about it, the few days before we came here she said some things that I didn’t really notice but I should have, like ‘‘I’m determined to start uni free and happy without a boyfriend.’’ Then when I first asked, she told me she wasn’t ready yet and it had only been two days and she needed more time, give it a few weeks, then the next time, a day later when I started pushing for an answer came the ‘‘I dont love you’’ stuff etc.

This sort of thing makes me think it’s not about her feelings for me at all, more to do with her wanting to make the most of uni. I guess that makes me feel more positive, because the novelty will wear off eventually and I’ll still be here. I hope that’s the case anyway.

What do you guys think? Anyone able to shed some light on her behavior? I really just spend my days on autopilot while my head runs guesswork over and over and I never really get anywhere by myself. I’m totally clueless :frowning:

Just be patient I know how hard that can be. And maybe its true, maybe she wants some time with herself, college makes you realize how young you are and how many things you have to accomplish in life. And relationships that dont work frustrates you to a really high level, specially a long one. But all the mistakes fade a away with time, and the good times remain. Just think as someone that just died, at first you cry and refuse to believe and you take forever to move with your life, and after some time you only feel a good thing for them. Relationships are like that, they dont die, but the bad part vanish with time. For the person who broke up, they can only think about the bad times and how scared they are of getting hurt, but for the dumpee its different, we can only thing how many good times we had together and how we want it back. But one thing is in common, both parts are tired of fighting and time is essential, trust me. If a person stayed with you this long, she wont forget you that fast(: Just keep the NC, and time will answer your questions, in my opinion you still have a chance(:

Its strange because I am in the opposite situation my ex is younger then me and just started collage again and I am back starting my 3rd year at uni. ( I did only skim read so I could be completely wrong)

But best advice give it time for sure! Just like what Laurais13 said over time people start to remember and focus on the good parts :smiley:

Okay so some further updates. I was sitting on my windowsill Saturday night chatting with some friends when I saw the light on in her room. She was getting ready to go out looking in the mirror (which is right by the window).

I was curious, then I saw some guy pacing around the room behind her, flexing his arms in the mirror, being a general twat. My heart literally went ice cold, and I sat there gobsmacked for a good two minutes just staring. Eventually she saw me looking at her, and she got that deer-in-headlights look on her face that she does when she sees me. She looked very upset. She immediately turned off the light, closed the curtains, and turned the light on again.

I was utterly shocked and surprised, and obviously my head started playing the most ridiculous scenarios. My friends instantly ushered me to the bus stop to go out, and five minutes later she showed up. Turned out it wasn’t a date or anything, she was just going on another course specific freshers event, as the guy was not there and she was wearing something course-themed. This time as far as I could see she didn’t even look at me, just kept walking. Honestly I have no idea if she even saw me, but I have to assume she did. She hasn’t said anything to me or sent any texts since last time. I did see her from my window this morning and she didn’t look very happy, but besides that I’ve nothing new to go on.

Honestly having thought about it I’m not particularly worried about the other guy in the room. He was probably just a flatmate coming in for a chat while she got ready or something. It does hurt to see and stuff but I figure the more obvious and in-character solution is more likely, and that panicking is the worst thing I could do at this point. Besides, any guy who flexes his arms in the mirror is most definitely not her type. I’m trying to keep my cool and waiting for the next piece of communication, but I’m worried. I fear she may think I was spying on her (I really wasn’t) and that could be a setback. I’m trying to stay away from the window from now on!

So. What to do?

You are doing the right thing not to panic and stay cool. If he is a flatmate you have nothing to worry about!

If she went from happy to sad when she saw you this could be regret, she might have felt a lot of emotions when she saw you.

I am not sure if its a setback, personally I would say it is but I am not 100% sure. As you could have literally just looked out you window for a split second and the same thing could of happened.

On what to do, I am stuck on what to say. Don’t stop looking or going by the window unless if it was something you never used to do very often. Try not to look at her window but don’t stop going to your completely. You never know she might be looking at your window.

Struggling on advice for this so I hope someone else can chip in.

I dunno for sure that he is but I have to assume so, when you’re getting ready to go somewhere isn’t exactly a convenient time for visitors and he definitely wasn’t there at the bus stop so he wasn’t going on the event. Flatmate is the most likely conclusion I could draw.

Yeah she did look very upset and shocked, we stared at each other for a couple seconds and I was sitting on the windowsill looking out so maybe she got the wrong impression.

I think it does hit her quite hard when she sees me, though for what reasons I can’t be sure. I’m certain that she wants to be single and responsibility free for the moment, but looking at the evidence and her feelings for me in the very recent past I think it’s likely all the things she said about not loving me and not wanting to try again were excuses. She’s done similarly before (claiming to have met someone else to get rid of me).

From her reactions every time she sees me and the texts she sends every few days I think it’s safe to say there are still feelings of some sort. I feel like there’s a part of her which does want to make it work and still has a strong attachment to me (like the part that was talking about pre bedtime cuddles two weeks before our arrival) , but it’s a smaller part than the current one which is proud of having broken free of what she saw as an oppressive relationship and wants to enjoy uni to the max.

I’ve seen her leaving the building twice now today and both times she looked stressed and unhappy. That could be for any number of reasons though, not necessarily related to me at all, but still, its something.

Honestly it’s kind of difficult not to look out the window. The door of her building bangs very loudly when it closes and my desk is placed close enough to the window that I barely have to crane my head to see who is coming out. Looking in her window is more difficult but sometimes frankly it’s hard to stop myself. I have seen her look at mine a few times but recently she’s just marched by, so maybe she’s trying not to.

So, any thoughts you guys?

Anybody able to help me? Going crazy here :frowning: