Should I reset No Contact?

@soupcat Yes, reply today or tomorrow saying, “Thanks! I bought some new pens for that drawing.” Then add: “My work phone has to be returned to the company so I really need my phone back from you. Please mail it as soon as possible. Thank you.”

Dating a much younger girl might be a mistake, but if you decide to continue with her, maybe you can just be good friends. What are your ages?? Is this the first girl you mentioned? What does more alternative mean??

Glad you’re dating and learning lessons about why breakups happen. Your psychologist can also help you in that regard…

I agree you shouldn’t initiate contacts with your ex, but don’t ignore her if she contacts you first. If she continues to initiate contacts with you over several weeks, you might ask to meet up with her, but only if she hints that she might have made a mistake breaking up with you…

Good luck:)

Hey @patricia12 !

So I replied to her a bit later in the day, thanking her for the compliment and sent a gif! I didn’t mention the pens because, I don’t know, it felt so shallow and not really relevant? She didn’t read or reply to that though so I might’ve made a mistake there. I’m having a really hard time navigating conversations with her. We used to share everything and now I don’t want to come across as needy and I feel like I am over-analyzing every interaction.
So I asked about the phone, in the exact way you phrased it, and she replied with:
Hey, sure, ill get it back to u as soon as i can

It felt very cold and impersonal. I said “Alright” and asked her if she got tested for COVID (She was supposed to get tested on Monday). I was a little concerned she might’ve picked it up (she is a smoker and I really hope she doesn’t get it). This conversation went on a bit about the situation at her work, how she has to sanitize everything and how she’s doing a lot of overtime. I started getting a bit uncomfortable so I stopped responding at some point. Again, I am not completely over her, it feels weird the way we talk now (as just “friends”).
I do try to keep it all light and upbeat, which is manageable.

I went out for a 4th time with the girl and it was nice. I am not really looking for a relationship, but she’s fun to hang out with. While I was with her, my ex texted me to say she needs my number (She might’ve lost it when she got the new phone), and that she’s going to ship the phone with DPD.
She also changed her profile picture and she looks amazing and this really hurts and now I feel really bad and relapsing. So that’s the status at the moment. I responded with saying “Alright awesome thanks!” and gave her my number.

I’m feeling pretty down right now. Oh well. If she doesn’t regret the break up, then I hope she has a happy life. She’s very gorgeous and I feel like an idiot for letting her go. I tried to marry her, but that did not work out. I really hope, she ends up with a man that treats her with respect and doesn’t take her for granted.
Can I tell her she looks great in her new profile picture? Or is that bad. She had a really depressive photo when she left, and now she’s smiling again.

@soupcat This is such a sad story:( Glad you’re having fun with the new girl:) Yeah, I guess it’s okay to tell your ex that she looks great, but don’t initiate any other messages for a while.

You said you didn’t mention the “pens”… what does that mean?

Hopefully you will get your phone back soon! Keep us posted…

Good luck:)

Thanks @patricia12

She thanked me for the comment and then later (when she gave me the tracking number for the phone) asked me why I had to give the phone back. This kind of let into a conversation about how I’m switching careers and how I’m going freelance and cutting ties with the company I worked for. They were hit hard financially during COVID and had to let me go (this job was a big cause of stress at home actually. I vented a lot about a specific colleague and how I didn’t like some of the projects they gave me). She said “Good for u, sounds comfy?”, I said how happy I am with how things turned out and that I get to focus on my own projects now and how more relaxed I feel and that they gave me a nice bonus. She said “Sounds great?”. I asked how her school is going and she said how it’s all online at the moment but would prefer real classes. I didn’t respond to this.
She then later asked me to send the rest of her Harry Potter books. This was a gift I got her 3 years ago on her birthday. It was a pricey box set of the entire series and it came in a cute package. I already sent her the one book she was reading with her other stuff, I didn’t send the other books because it was too heavy for one shipment and getting a bit expensive. This is something we talked about during the phone call. I also think it’s one of the best presents I ever got her.

Here’s how the interaction went:

Her: Btw, if i give u money could u send all the other Harry Potter books?
Me: You want em all?
Me: Of course!
Her: I mainly want the little trunk they came in?
Her: But the books as well of course, otherwise theyre just cluttering your space
Me: Well, theyre yours ? I’m not going to read them anyway
Me: I have to warn you, the shipping isn’t going to be cheap ?
Her: If u can do it with DPD that would be great cause their system seems pretty solid and its cheaper
Her: But lets see how your phone gets to u i guess?
Me: ?
Me: I’ll look into it!
Me: Just checked PostNL, its one euro cheaper than DPD ?

I guess I’ll just send it with DPD as she asked, but I wanted to see if there were cheaper options. Anyway, I guess once the phone arrives and I sent the books I will lay low for now and just let her initiate contact again. It’s what I’ve been doing so far, and it feels like the best course of action. I haven’t really initiated anything up till now unless she said something. I feel like I’m being friend-zoned, and because of the quarantine, there is no way of meeting up. I do feel that on the plus side she’s not going to actively date anyone new seeing how scared she is of getting COVID.

I could really use some pointers on my communication because I have no idea how to navigate this. I feel like I’m in this limbo of “friend” and “ex-lover” and I don’t want to fall in the friend zone (even though I probably already am). I really just try to be upbeat and light. She also seems to have her guard up still so it’s hard to talk about deeper stuff. Not that that would be good at this point I guess. We’ll see how things go for now. I’m glad I’m getting the phone back. I was so done with paying for her things.

Our anniversary is next weekend on Halloween and I’m not sure if I’m emotionally prepared to go through it. I already made plans with friends so I’m at least not alone and have distraction.

Thank you again for your continued efforts and time. Knowing I have a place to go to, to lay it all our feels like it is helping me process things.

@soupcat A very strange thing…I couldn’t get into this site by clicking the menu and then “forums” or “boards”…I had to click on the link inside the email alert I received with your message to me?

Well, it sounds like you two are getting along very well! And since she won’t be dating because she’s afraid of the virus, she has time to think of only of you and not some other guy. Try not to worry too much about being friend-zoned. The chance of reconciling is better if you remain friendly than if she harbored very bad feelings about you!

I guess it’s good that you plan on being with friends on the Halloween anniversary, but I suspect that you will still be thinking of her that day.

Seems your lay off was a blessing due to the fact you are less stressed out and can focus on your own projects. I’m sure your ex is happy for you and it might even have a positive effect on her as she remembers how agitated you were about your job and how it adversely affected the relationship with her!

I’m sure you’ll be glad to get your phone back as she will be to receive her books. Very nice and thoughtful birthday gift…

Yes, good to upbeat/pleasant with her for the time being…and then hopefully in the not too distant future she will be open to discussing the possibility of ways to make amends and reconcile…

Keep your chin up and don’t lose hope…

@patricia12

A very strange thing..I couldn’t get into this site by clicking the menu and then “forums” or “boards”..I had to click on the link inside the email alert I received with your message to me?

Oh! A bug in the system probably!

Well, it sounds like you two are getting along very well! And since she won’t be dating because she’s afraid of the virus, she has time to think of only of you and not some other guy. Try not to worry too much about being friend-zoned. The chance of reconciling is better if you remain friendly than if she harbored very bad feelings about you!

A part of me does fear that her new profile on Facebook picture might have been for an app like Tinder or Bumble. But I’m trying not to think of it like that. And at the same time, I’m dating girls. She should be allowed to also explore her options in a sense. Maybe this would lead her to confirm that we are compatible for each other if she sees what else is out there. But again. This is not something for me to worry about. (I try).

I guess it’s good that you plan on being with friends on the Halloween anniversary, but I suspect that you will still be thinking of her that day.

I probably think about her everyday, so I assume it won’t be different then.

Seems your lay off was a blessing due to the fact you are less stressed out and can focus on your own projects. I’m sure your ex is happy for you and it might even have a positive effect on her as she remembers how agitated you were about your job and how it adversely affected the relationship with her!

When we first met I was in a similar position of trying to become an independent artist. Maybe that’s what initially attracted her to me. So I’m hoping to re-awaken those emotions in a sense. It was really hard to tell her this because I didn’t want to look like my life is falling apart. Thank god I’m using this as a positive opportunity. I hope it goes well.

I’m sure you’ll be glad to get your phone back as she will be to receive her books. Very nice and thoughtful birthday gift..

Thank you.

Yes, good to upbeat/pleasant with her for the time being..and then hopefully in the not too distant future she will be open to discussing the possibility of ways to make amends and reconcile.. Keep your chin up and don’t lose hope..

Thank you Patricia. This really helps me stay positive. I still don’t know how I would handle a reconciliation. All of our countries are still in lockdown and there are travel bans. So I wouldn’t even be able to see her (maybe when I get my license but I think the borders are closed as well…).

I feel like I’m having a hard time (even after all these months it still stings). I dropped the ball here and there (missed some days working out and meditating). But I feel like I shouldn’t give up hope. I have been drawing a lot the past few days and I feel like I am making a lot of progress there. I’m trying to stay motivated. But it is hard. I’m staying mindful and whatever happens, happens.

I will keep you posted if there are any updates. Thank you.

@soupcat I’m still having trouble with finding boards OR forums when I type “Get your ex back permanently” into the address bar, then click the link that brings me to the home page. When I click the “Menu” at top right, it doesn’t show “boards” as before… How do you log in?? Are you just clicking the link in the email??

Try not to overthink anything! Just take it one day at a time…

Please be careful and safe on Halloween! Maybe social distance and wear a mask when close to anyone…

Hey @patricia12

Sorry to hear you’re having trouble with getting to the website. The URL of the website changed recently, maybe that has something to do with it? I just go to https://www.forum.exbackpermanently.com/boards/ and log in with my credentials.

There is a new development. I thought she was not going to date anyone because of the pandemic, but as it turns out she is dating someone new. She posted about it on Instagram. This is very weird and she never posted stories before. It was a picture of her having a beer with a guy (didn’t see his face), and a heart saying “date night”. It feels like this is not the first date. It also seems that the picture she had last week on her social media was her getting ready for a date night as well now that I think about it. I honestly feel like I’m going to be sick.
It feels like she’s also throwing it in my face. I don’t know what is going on in her head.
I just feel really bad right now and feel like its the end of the world and I have lost her for good.
I googled what to do and it says I should now focus on myself and I feel that’s not going to work for tonight.
My country just went in another lock down and I am not able to go outside and continue dating the other girl (we were supposed to meet up yesterday, but that got cancelled).

Is this over? I am not going to reach out to her. I’m also not going to remove her from Instagram because that would feel like a pitiful move right.
Please help me. It is our anniversary tomorrow and I can’t believe she’s doing this at this time.

Hey @patricia12

I have a follow up to the situation. I have talked to friends about how seeing her dating other people is making me feel bad. So I thought about it and my course of action feels like maybe I will tell her:
“Hey seeing your story last night made me realize that I don’t think we can be friends for now. It really hurt me and I think we should stop talking for a while.”
And then just cut all communication and remove her from Instagram and just go away from her. There’s nothing left to talk about to her.

I know this is against the “rules” of break up. But it seems like she wants to move on and I don’t want to be there for that. She thinks we are friends, but I don’t feel the same way. I think I would like to make a stand here and let her know this.

What do you think?

My mind seems to be racing all over the place and she really put a number on me. I just did some meditating and tried to center myself. The fact that its our anniversary and that we are in a complete lockdown seems to make this ten times harder than it should be. I keep going back and forth about thinking of removing her completely from social media. I think if I would do that now I remove all the progress that I have made so far. I feel like I need to remain strong and just keep pushing forward. If I show her weakness and jealousy now, I will be in a bad position. So I will try to maintain myself and let this play out. As I mentioned earlier, it is good for both of us to see other people after having a very dysfunctional relationship.

I just can’t believe that she would put it out there on social media in my face. It feels like a really low blow and a mean thing to do. She already broke up with me over text, she dragged the break up out for so long by “going on a break”. She “forgot” to give the phone back when she said she was going to. It took her forever to get her address to exchange things. I don’t know. It seems like she has no respect for my feelings at all, and this is just throwing salt in the wound.
I have also been on dates but I tried to be civil and not brag about it. I don’t think its very nice of a person to do this.

Regardless. I will ignore this and just keep focusing on myself. There is no point now in continuing this obsession with her. Right? I got the message loud and clear. This will either be a rebound and fail. Or it is serious and I am out of the picture completely. Whatever happens I need to start letting go now. How hard it might be. I will not reach out to her. No matter what.

@soupcat Thank you very much for the link!! I copied it and bookmarked it and it works fine…

NO! Don’t say this:“Hey seeing your story last night made me realize that I don’t think we can be friends for now. It really hurt me and I think we should stop talking for a while.” She will know you’ve been carefully checking out her social media. Instead say something like “I’m having a difficult time coping with our breakup and need some space with no contact for awhile. I hope you understand.”

And don’t remove her from Instagram. Just stop looking at social media so much… Even though I know it’s hard to stop obsessing about her, try very hard to focus on something else the second thoughts of her come into your head!

I’m sorta shocked myself that she is being so inconsiderate of your feelings after the many years you spent together. Maybe with time, she will mature emotionally enough to stop toying with you…

Here in the United States, COVID-19 is spreading everywhere and some people don’t have the common sense to social distance and wear masks. Very tragic and scary world-wide!

I hope you won’t be so sad much longer if you can manage to re-focus your thoughts.

Good luck and take care…

PS: Did you receive the phone?

Thank you very much for the link!! I copied it and bookmarked it and it works fine..
@patricia12 Glad to hear that works!
PS: Did you receive the phone?

Yes I did! Arrived really fast. Now I have to send her Harry Potter books and ask for the money for shipment.

I have not send the message because I’m still thinking about it.
After everything that happened this weekend it feels like I can’t handle this because I’m not treating this like a friendship.
I keep having her reach out and I feel like I’m being distant. But I have this feeling that I want to be friends with her.

I think I’ll feel more at ease if the lines of communication are more open because right now I feel she’s not reaching out to me because out of fear of hurting me or something.
What if I just switch the entire interaction and just start asking how she’s doing and how her dates are going? It seems like she wants me to know.
What if I just embrace the friendship and stop with this dumb idea of getting her back. I KNOW we could be good friends. Our communication is really good, I just feel like shit because I feel like I’m playing this dumb game of getting her back which is not like myself. If I start acting more like myself and normal, things would feel way better for me.
I want to know that she can talk to me.

It’s just an idea

@soupcat It’s possible to be friendly and gain back the attraction/love again! It’s a chance, but not guaranteed…

Yes of course, act like yourself. Say and do some of the things as when you first met.

I really don’t know what else to say for now, just wishing you luck…

Hey @patricia12

I hope this is the last update I will have to make. I again thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the support you have given me on this journey.
It is not over but I hope the hardest part is. I can’t thank you enough for all the effort. I would buy you a cup of coffee if I could!
So far things are good and I hope they stay this way. It seems I got what I wanted which is the connection that we shared and my best friend.
At the moment this seems to be making me very happy. I’m also coming to terms with her seeing other people and the idea of her moving on with someone else, seeing that I would also like to do that. I will never exclude a new relationship with her, but this would mean a lot of couples therapy and resolving our different needs. I also don’t think either of us is open to reconciling at this point anyway (I still want to date other women in all fairness, just to see what else is out there).

I am going to write about how the communication the past week has been because I think it seems like a nice closing to this very long story that I have involved you in, which I can’t stop thanking you for.

After seeing her on “Date night”, and going through our anniversary on the 31st, I reached out to her on Sunday, the 1st of November. I sent an upbeat “Hey!” and told her I’ll ship her books next week using DPD because I liked their tracking. She said “Ok thanks! ?” . I then just bit the bullet and asked how her date went. She replied saying it was nice and instantly asked me if I was seeing anyone. The conversation that followed after that was the most organic and natural way we talked to each other since the breakup. We talked about how it’s kinda weird that we’re both seeing other people. We talked about friends we know who never talked anymore after they broke up and how we did not want to up like “those people”.
She was on lunch break but I said we could continue talking later. She said ok and then 2 or 3 hours later she said “I’m home now btw”. This conversation ended up leading into a video call because of how we were kind of misinterpreting each other’s texts.

I have to tell you, Patricia, that video call was amazing. We talked like nothing ever happened between us. We talked for a whole hour about our relationship, the ups, and downs, what we’re doing now, we laughed a lot. We discussed the people we’re seeing now and how it’s different but also nice (for both of us). We almost misspoke and called each other by our nicknames (sweety and baby). I put some ground rules on our friendship, saying I do not want to put in all the work in our conversations because of how draining that was during our relationship and caused a lot of frustration with me. She 100% agreed to this.
We felt there was still so much air to clear and we could go on for hours. But we both decided to do this again soon and hung up. We both admitted how nice it felt to just talk to each other again like normal human beings.
I sent a follow-up text after we hung up saying I’ll friend her again on Facebook (This was an hour or two later). This led to a 4 hour (!) text conversation until she went to bed. She also has been initiating text conversations EVERY DAY the past week. I haven’t heard from her today but she is still working. I have not reached out to her. I am still letting her do the initiating.
It will be impossible for me to write out everything we talked about this week, but I can assure you, they were very positive. Key phrases she used:

Me: we had a lot to catch up on it seems
Her: Ye we havent connected in a while
Her:I put it in asterisks cause my therapist says connecting is not equal to just talking
Her: Connecting is like really getting on eachothers wavelength

And when I asked how she fell in love with me (we were talking how we first met and our first dates and all that, it wasn’t a random question!):
Her: I really dont know
Her: I had a lot of doubts early on as well
Her: I think at that point in time i liked that we were so different
Her: I also think its very hard to say for sure
Her: I just fell in love
Her: And i was so in love and it was so much
Her: I dont think i ever believed it was possible to be so in love as i was with u

We also talked about the drawings I’ve been posting on Instagram and she said:
I miss when youd draw me
Or
I sort of avoided anything that reminded me of u for a while

There were also very crucial moments about what went wrong:
Me: It feels like we haven’t talked like this in ages, or ever?
Her: I can make a pretty clear distinction of when it stopped
Her: When it started going south with your mom and your sister
Her: We diverted our attention to your sister
Her: We basically became parents

Her: Cause it was like being a co-parent
Her: With a super toxic person

Or how I would love to hear her speak Dutch if we ever meet again (she’s still practicing the Dutch she learned here over the years). She responded with:

Her: Ive spoken to guests in dutch and it always lead to a great tip?
Me: I know you hate it when I force you to speak it but if we ever meet again I’d like to hear it
Her: I hope we do meet again

She also said that she doesn’t see herself falling in love in the near future (or ever again the way she was in love with me).

We also discussed the people we are seeing. She says she is just casually hanging out with the guy from her Instagram and neither of them are looking for anything serious. I said the same about me and the girl I am seeing. We discussed the idea if we ever get into a serious relationship with other people, that we would continue talking to each other and that our future partners need to be ok with this. We both agree that what we have is a great connection. We were also both on the verge of actually having kids with each other at some point (we never told each other this, but we both wanted it kind of).

I could go on and on. I keep re-reading our messages to see how I can improve my communication. I am learning a lot. I keep finding moments where I think I could’ve been more considerate, I also told her that I am trying to be more considerate in my communication in general. She was very enthusiastic about that! I’m also reading books about communication and I have been trying to apply this as much as possible. Every time she mentions the things that went wrong in our relationship, I respond by saying how I understand and make sure she knows I am hearing what she is saying (repeating it back to her “sounds like you went through a lot” kind of things). I try to also drop once in a while how I am trying to improve all these things.

So I guess that is it. I left out A LOT of crucial details so feel free to ask if you want. I am currently just going to let things play out how they are now. I am done with forcing things. I am getting my emotions under control. Our communication is 100% transparent and open at the moment and that is all I wanted. We are still very loving towards each other and I think we can learn a lot from each other by talking about our experience before and after the break-up.
I have gotten my best friend back and that is all I was hoping for. If she ever falls in love with someone, I want to be there for her to see her happy. She said that whoever I fall in love with, she’ll want to be friends with that person. I am honestly so happy with the agreement that we made. And who knows, if the love we had for each other comes back, then so be it. Otherwise, I am also perfectly happy.

I have been writing all this down for the past week thinking about how I should post this. And every time I think about sending it to you, new things keep happening. All feel very important. 2 days ago I asked her what she thought was specifically toxic about my mother (I said I would like to discuss it with my therapist) and she gave a nicely detailed answer. She then asked me what I thought was toxic about herself. I asked her the same about me, and there was a moment of apologizing to each other for how we treated each other (me being insecure and over dramatic and losing my temper, she not sharing her emotions with me and just shutting me out). She keeps saying how she keeps on eye on Belgian news to practice her dutch.
She hasn’t reached out in a few days until yesterday where she asked if we could do another phone call (I asked about this earlier if its easier for her to call because she’s very busy.) She said: “a lot has happened since we last talked itll just be easier to explain in non-text form”
She arranged a phone call for the next day (tonight). So now I guess we’re doing that.
I’m trying to forget about reconciling and just trying to make amends for all the things that went wrong, I’m also trying to make her understand how I felt and explain why I did the things that I did, but I think I need to cut that out. It seems like she had a really traumatic experience here and I need to be supportive about that.

Again thank you and I am SO SORRY for this massive wall of text but I have no idea what to do with these thoughts. I’m just going to post it as is because it feels the most complete this way.

I will probably plan a trip to Latvia to visit her when all this COVID is over, but for now, thank you and stay safe.

@soupcat You’re welcome and I’m glad I could be helpful (if only a little bit).

She said: “a lot has happened since we last talked itll just be easier to explain in non-text form”

Wondering what she said happened since you two last talked, but not necessary to let me know. I’m sure you two will be able to communicate effectively from now on…

You wrote:“I’m also trying to make her understand how I felt and explain why I did the things that I did, but I think I need to cut that out.” I agree as it seems you’ve done your best to make amends and any more would probably be repetitive.

I’m glad you’re content with being good friends! Sounds like progress and nobody knows what will happen in the future…

I’ll miss hearing from you, but so glad you’re feeling okay with your situation as it is right now and wish only the best for you! Take care and stay safe too…

Dear @patricia12 ,

I hope you are doing well and staying safe amongst this COVID craze.

I thought I wasn’t going to contact you anymore, but something happened and I would like one final piece of advice from you. We’ve been having consistent friendly conversations every few days, always light and upbeat. Always with the mindset of being good friends with her. But now she lost her job recently and a few hours ago she texted me this:

Can i say something thats emotionally difficult to say?
I miss you, and i miss the relationship we had when it was good
And i wish i met you later, when i knew more about myself, love and life in general

I responded with:

wow that is emotionally difficult
I know
I feel the same

We then had a small chat about our relationship and how it shaped us (I remained calm and focused). I asked her if she was worried about my reaction because she kept saying how hard it was to say it. She replied with:

I wasnt worried about how youd react, i was afraid of saying it in the first place
When i said it to my new therapist i full on ugly-cried

I then steered the conversation into suggesting a video chat to expand on everything and she was very on board with that. So this Saturday we’re going to be talking about this face to face.

I am still not 100% going to assume this means reconciling, but it feels things are looking good. Now, are there specific things I should and shouldn’t say when we go on video chat? What is the best course of action here? I plan on keeping the course and staying friendly. Don’t initiate contact (not too much anyway, maybe once a week if the timing is right). I am not planning to mention getting back together. Just talk about her feelings and how things are going and how I have changed since the breakup (having more boundaries with my family, trying to be more considerate of people’s emotions, etc).

Thank you Patricia. I think we’re almost there.

@soupcat Sorry to hear about her job lose and hope she finds another fairly soon.

It sounds like you have good instincts as to how to respond to her comments. And it sounds like she’s on the verge of wanting to try reconciliation.

And your idea of not initiating too much contact is a good one too. Just continue reacting to her as you have been. The only thing I would suggest is that you ask her if she is willing to consider reconciliation. If she says yes, ask her to think about what you each should or could do to accomplish it… But if you think this is too direct and too soon to mention, just go with your instincts and continue on the upbeat friendly path.

Stay safe and best wishes for you both:)

@soupcat How did the video chat go??

Hey @patricia12 !

It’s been a while! The reason I haven’t posted here is that nothing happened. We never ended up in a video call.
After that conversation, she went cold and on the day itself, I never heard from her. The day after I asked her what happened to which she said “I was tired and fell asleep”. Honestly, I was a bit disappointed with this and didn’t feel like chasing her. So I went back to no contact.
She also kind of stopped reaching out to me as much. There were a few key messages I received from her:
One is how the dating app Bumble is disappointing (no people in her area) and how she broke up with the guy she was seeing. Her reason was that he kept talking about marriage and kids and it made her uncomfortable (she told him she wanted casual and no kids or marriage). After that, she went cold again until the holidays.

on Christmas (on the 26th, not the 25th) she sends me a merry Christmas and asked me what I did (Covid restrictions meant we both couldn’t see our families), I asked her the same. Few days after that I was doing a YouTube stream where I was drawing art and she said hi in the chat and reached out as well saying that I looked good (new haircut)and she missed watching me draw. On the 1st of January, she wished me a happy new year and asked me what I did. I mentioned how I got drunk (I actually slept with a girl I was seeing but did not want to tell her this) and asked her the same. She said how she stayed sober because the person she’s seeing now (she’s seeing someone else?) had to work and she wanted to be compassionate. She used to have a bit of a drinking problem so this felt like progress to me but also mean. I asked her if the guy she is seeing now is nice (mistake on my part, I KNOW! But I have a hunch she is seeing a girl because she wanted that and she used genderless pronouns to describe the person. I was curious if she found a girl to date! I would be happy for her! It’s not easy being bisexual and she recently came out to her mother). She ignored that message and didn’t reach out until my birthday.

On the 14th of January, she said “Happy Birthday! Have a good one!”. This felt a bit impersonal to me because I turned 30 and it was a big deal for me. She should know this. The funny part is that both her parents actually wished me a happy birthday exactly at midnight! I must’ve made a good impression on her parents? She sent her message around 4 PM. Does that matter?
I tried to get more conversation out of it by sending a picture of the birthday cake. This led to some back and forth (again small talk). The day after she asked how my birthday went and we exchanged some pictures (they’re having a lot of snow right now and I send pictures of how I was having a small party outside). I reached out the next day trying to be funny and saying I’m never drinking again. This is an inside joke we had whenever we went out drinking and had a hangover. She responded positive but went cold after that.
During the inauguration, I send her a picture of Bernie Sanders on his chair and we talked politics a bit (we were both always passionate about American politics). I told her it was nice to be able to talk about this to someone else besides my roommate. She again ignored that message.

That brings us to today. The reason I am posting here again. I am once again lost and in need of assistance.
It’s been a week since our last conversation and I decided I need to move on. What we had was beautiful but I need to stop chasing her and start living my life without trying to reconcile. I know I said I was okay with friendship (which I meant! I love our friendship!), but I didn’t think she’d say she’d miss me. That changed everything. But when we never had that video call I lost that hope again. I feel like I’m on an emotional roller coaster.

Now yesterday I got a message from her out of the blue. She sends me a picture from my Instagram. One of my drawings of me and her. She said, “we used to be so cute” followed up with “Can I ask for a favor”. Now, I saw those notifications and decided to not open them for a bit. I was having dinner, and they were giving me anxiety. I tried to distract myself by talking to my roommate and playing video games with him. After a few hours I texted her “whats up?” she said:
I remember reading a book in dutch about Hitlers assistant. Can i see what the author is? (shes a book nerd)
I didn’t respond right away because I was playing video games and then half an hour later she sends:
Nvm i got it, sorry to bother u

…???

One last noticeable thing worth mentioning. She likes almost all my posts on my new Instagram account. I’ve been uploading old and new artwork trying to establish a business. She followed this account without me asking and commented on it (drawings I made of her big butt that she likes).

So that brings you up to speed Patricia. It is another massive post and I apologize again. But so far I haven’t responded to her message, because it feels like breadcrumbs and some kind of not letting me move on but using me as a backup plan? I have no idea what to make of this.

So my question is. Can I ignore the messages from yesterday? She might’ve had a bad day, or a dip or something and got nostalgic. I’m staying busy and positive. Trying to not let this get to me. I have gotten really good at not looking at her profile and staying away from social media (maybe she hasn’t seen me online in a while, which could be causing this behavior?).

My alternative I could or would want to send is “Hey! Good that you found that author! Sorry that I didn’t respond, I was playing Red Dead redemption, horse poop simulator. Really good game!”
Something funny and upbeat, show her I don’t care? And make her not feel bad about bothering me? But then again. The way she reaches out like this is so not fucking cool. She seems confused and doesn’t know what she wants and I think I need to let her figure it out. And if that means I lose her then so be it? I still would love to reconcile in the right way. Have the relationship we both deserve, but not like this…

Jesus I can’t stop writing about this. This is insane! I hope it was a bit readable! I don’t think I’m in a hurry to reply to her because I’m kind of curious to see if she’ll reach out again if I ignore her for a bit. If she really wants to get back together, she would, right?