Is this situation salvageable?

I’m basically in week five of the split with my co-worker. My crime was not making more time for her and it I’m sure she was feeling very vulnerable about it. There were some legitimate reasons for my feet dragging, but the reality is I had forgotten how to get close to people and let them in. To quote “Up In the Air” I’ve been living in a cocoon of self-banishment and I’ve been trying too hard to not feel anymore disappointment in people.

Because this was a situation where I took her for granted, I felt going NC was not the right move and would reinforce her fears that I didn’t really care. I kept it light every 2-3 days mostly via text or Instagram, but trying to show some initiative in ways I had not done prior. The breakthru’s and flirting only seemed to come when she had been out drinking with her friends - at one point she OK’d the idea of us having another talk.

About two weeks ago we had a really nice week at work. She flirted with me at my desk. We had lunch together twice, she even asked to come sit with my over at my desk at the end of the day so I could help her get caught up on her casework. It wasn’t even anything she really needed me for so I really appreciated the gesture. I walked her to her car and she ended up driving me to mine, but I kept it all really light. The next morning at work she messaged me over to her desk so she could show me an email she had gotten. I felt like like everything was headed in the right direction. She even invited herself to be my +1 at a team outing for the new department I’m in (ironically it’s at her sister’s house).

She had a flight out to Seattle on Thursday that same week. I decided to give her a call before her flight to wish her well. It was a fun, light chat and she thanked me for calling. I was full on expecting not to hear from her during her trip, but to my surprise I got a text her first morning. On the surface it was a benign “Oh hey they have a cat here at this house”. She loves my cat so I took it as a bread crumb that she was thinking about me. We laughed and joked and then I let her be.

The next day she posted some meme on IG about letting things go that weren’t meant for you and then I noticed she had not been looking at my IG videos the entire day (she almost always does). I was out at dinner with some people and the only other non-coupled person there was a guy named Steven from Seattle. Thought it was ironic - so I texted her about it and let her know I was thinking about her.

She didn’t take to it very well. She kind of laughed at it and asked why. That’s when I made the mistake of saying I missed her. She then threw a situation we had over the summer in my face - she was profusely apologetic after it originally happened. I told her we have already talked about this and she acted like she had no idea. I showed her the screenshot and her response was “a little late don’t you think” with a frustrated emoji face. My response was not one of my best moments. I said “depends on who’s asking and I guess you still want me to eat some more sh- for that situation. Have a good night.”

We haven’t talked since. I decided to enforce a week of NC to get my head right and because honestly I’m pissed that she keeps throwing that one incident in my face. Not sure if she’s still gonna be my +1 at this point. Apparently she was consulting a co-worker of ours and trying to get an opinion on whether she should have that other talk with me. The co-worker was pushing for it, but my girl was being somewhat defensive in saying when she’s done she’s done. Ironically enough that same co-worker was looking at my IG videos this weekend. Keep in mind we are not friends on there and she’s never looked before.

All I know is telling an ex- I miss you from her perspective must come off as entirely selfish. I should’ve never done it and it ruined the momentum I had built up. It shouldn’t be about me anymore, it should be about her and me creating the experience she deserved. I lost twice with this, a special girl and my best friend. Any suggestions are appreciated.

How long were you a couple? In what way did you take her for granted?
Can you give more detail as to the summer incident?

Most work places frown on employees who are in a relationship with other employees as it makes for friction in the workplace if they split up. So you can see it isn’t wise to date co-workers.

Be polite and casual with her at work, but continue no contact.

You mention some mental issues you have:" I’ve been living in a cocoon of self-banishment and I’ve been trying too hard to not feel anymore disappointment in people." Maybe therapy would help you.

Forgot to mention we dated for 4.5 months, but it sometimes feels much longer than that since the flirtation was very heavy for 5 months prior.

Her sister works on the same team as I do and sits right in front me. She came over here to talk to her this morning. I’m thinking that perhaps my “I miss you” gaffe isn’t as bad as I thought because if it were she’d be avoiding coming over here altogether.

@Patricia12

Yes, dating at the workplace is something I’ve never done and have avoided all of my life. But the thing between her and I was undeniable, to the point where for once I backed off my rules and let it happen. I haven’t felt that way about a woman in almost 10 years. The irony is as time wore on I always worried in the back of mind what would happen if things went south and how it would affect the work dynamic - especially since we originally sat 10ft away from each other before I switched teams about 2 months in. Hell I even had a jealous co-worker file a false HR complaint against me because of my flirtation with her.

To sum up the summer incident she was out day day drinking with friends and by the time I met up with her she was a hot mess. At one point even trying to fight a guy. After 3-4 hours of this I had had enough, told her I don’t do this when I’m out at the bars. She tried calling me all night and then the next day we spoke. She cried profusely and begged me not to judge her for it. I did forgive her, but I never did go out to the bars with her again after that. That day it felt like she had a lot on her mind about us that she wasn’t saying, but her actions were that of someone frustrated with wanting more and drinking to pacify it.

I believe she resents me for not giving her another chance in that regard. As I’ve tried to reconcile, she’s thrown it in my face a few times telling me “but I may act unflattering” (words I used). The thinking was the bars weren’t a healthy place for us to get to know each other further.

I’ve considered therapy for my own mental hangups, but I feel as if it’s just a matter of taking plunge and opening up to people again.

Saying you missed her was just the truth, right? Nothing wrong with expressing your honest thoughts.

You didn’t answer my other question; in what way did you display taking her for granted?

Okay, so it’s been 5 weeks since the breakup. Because of the way she’s been treating you more recently, it makes perfect sense to continue no contact… that is no contact outside work and only casual when you see her at work by not bringing up anything personal.

I don’t know why she would be upset about the summer incident, she’s the one who was drunk and making a scene. She apologized and you forgave her so I’m confused as to why she would mention it again. Your response wasn’t nice and she might be upset about that… At any rate, give her time to cool down and perhaps at some point she might want to try and reconcile.

@patricia12

You didn’t answer my other question; in what way did you display taking her for granted?

Not making enough time for her. Gotta understand we were at work with each other all day long. Even when I switched teams I was still taking all my breaks/lunches with her and the texting all night when we each went home. On the weekends I always made sure to reserve either Friday or Saturday for her. Ultimately she wanted more and I wasn’t giving it to her. She felt she was trying so hard for it too.

The summer incident feels like it’s become some immature defense mechanism when I try getting too close again and it only happens when she’s been drinking with friends. She was the one who said to me “no hard feelings” when we amicably split - albeit in retrospect she was already pulling away 2-3 weeks before that. I dunno what the hell got into me that night I texted her I missed her, especially after the quality momentum I had built up that week.

So you think I should stay straight NC right now rather than call her, have a light/fun conversation, and confirm is she’s still my +1 for Saturday?

@patricia12

In some of the reading I’ve been doing it’s become clear to me that saying “I miss you” is a selfish act. It implies that this whole situation is still about me and my feelings rather than about hers. She was the one who wanted to hear that while we were dating not after. It puts them on the spot and they question the motives - is it really about missing her or anxiety from the separation.

Let’s not forget her attraction level isn’t where it was prior to the split.

I still think telling someone you miss them after a breakup isn’t a disaster…

Didn’t you ever tell her you miss her while you were in the relationship? And if not, why not?

If her attraction level is low now, I don’t see how you could possibly change that except to stay no contact until she cools off from whatever is bothering her.

She’s your #1 for Saturday? What does that mean??

If she continues to treat you badly, consider the breakup as permanent and find someone outside the workplace to date.

@patricia12

Interesting question. It’s hard to miss someone when you’re around them all the time. We sat 10ft away from each other on the same team (even before we dated). When I switched departments it was still on the same floor on the other side of the building where her sister worked too. We took all of our breaks together, lunches, etc then would be texting each other throughout the night. For the most part I always made sure we saw each other once on the weekend. Looking back on it I feel like such a stubborn SOB for not having her over during the week.

So as you can see when was there ever time to miss her? I don’t know exactly where her attraction level is at right now. She still flirts with me from time to time, but clearly anyone who walks away from dating you has suffered a setback in that department. I don’t know that staying NC is going to do me any good - it’s a huge risk given the reason we’re no longer dating (took her for granted).

Btw, when I said +1 I meant she wanted to accompany me to my work team’s outing this weekend. She literally told her sister directly that she was coming with me. I did call her earlier btw. Originally it went to voicemail and she then texted me to ask if I meant to call her. See what I’m trying to do is steer this thing out of the text/Instagram purgatory. When we dated, it was almost exclusively texting when we weren’t hanging out. I feel like the phone call shows initiative.

I thought it went well all things considered. Fun, lighthearted, and some good laughs but I decided I’ll text tomorrow to confirm if she’s coming on Saturday or not. Just wanted to leave things on a good note tonight.

One thing I know is that too much texting can get boring. I’ve heard this from many people. Most prefer phone calls more so than texts. And yes, a phone call once a week or so in the evenings would have shown more interest and initiative. And then maybe saying I miss you…can’t wait to see you at work tomorrow… Seeing each other on weekends was nice, but an occasional evening out after work would have been nice too. And trusting her enough to go to a bar now and then would have shown your trust after forgiving her last summer.

After your call went to voicemail and she texted to ask if you meant to call her, what did you do? I’m confused… Did you call back or send a text reply? Either one would have been good as a follow-up…

Wow, didn’t know she wants to accompany you this Saturday to a work outing, but that’s a good sign:)

Can’t you confirm Saturday plans when you see her at work tomorrow?