How not to mess up this time?

Hello everyone. I read all the articles, rules, googled it a million times, but I’m not sure what I should do.

Here’s the story. Sorry about the long post :slight_smile:

I moved in with my boyfriend 6 months into our relationship. It was his idea, we were in a great place, so we decided to take things to next level. 3 months after, he got a job offer overseas (his home country), so we moved there. I got multiple job offers in first month or so, we were living in the same apartment building as his parents, they loved me, things were going great. We had a few ups and downs, arguments, but nothing out of the ordinary, we solved everything as it emerged.

The thing that bothered me the most was him smoking weed. He agreed to do it once or twice a week because that was something I could tolerate, but he failed to keep the promise. As our relationship was more serious (talking about getting married, buying a house, having kids), the stress level was increasing and we fought more and more, he smoked more and more, he didn’t initiate sex at all, so we did it once a month when I turned up naked in front of him. We decided to drop the long-term plans because we thought the stress will go away, we will reconcile and everything will sort itself out.

That wasn’t the case. During the lockdown, everything seemed to be fine and we got along, but one night we had a sincere conversation where he told me he cares about me, but he feels that he needs to be alone, as he was in and out of serious relationships from age of 19 (now he’s 30). I couldn’t accept the fact that he is willing to give up everything we dreamed of, and somehow I convinced him we shouldn’t break up. He let me have it my way, but I could see that he is not happy.

I genuinely believe him when he says that he wants to be alone, I know there’s no other girl or some hidden agenda.

Last Wednesday, we got into a fight about a stupid thing, but our deeper problems resurfaced. I packed a bag, and left him angry and disappointed. I called my colleague from work, and she told me I can come to her place. I forgot my mom’s necklace at his place, so I sent him a text “nothing matters to me, none of the stuff, but I want my mom’s necklace back”. He responded with “you will get your other stuff also, whether you come to pick it up or I can drop them off at your place, but let’s talk about that when we cool off.”

Day after the breakup, he told me that his cousin possibly has COVID19, and that he will let me know if I have to get tested because we were at a lunch together few days ago. We exchanged some messages, one of mine being “I think I shouldn’t left that night, it was such a mistake”, and he responded “we’ll talk about it, but not now, in a few days”.

We met on Saturday to talk after that horrible argument few days ago. I was crying my eyes out, and told him I want to try again, from the scratch, no expectations and no rules. Let’s just meet, travel, and spend time together, let’s take a trip next weekend. He was conflicted - he wanted to say yes because he saw that I’m having a hard time, but he also wanted to stick by his words when he told me he wants to be alone. I pushed him to tell me how long will it take to decide, to give me at least something - no relationship, but let’s talk and meet. He was reluctant, and I told him I don’t want him to say YES because he feels sorry, but because he genuinely wants to spend time with me. We concluded nothing, but we agreed that we both want to text each other and that no contact is not an option for both of us.

On Tuesday, I went there to pick up some of my belongings. It was very hard, we both cried at some point (I was crying 90% of the time, he 10-15%), and I apologised that I’m such a mess, I didn’t want to make it harder for both of us. He understood, we started to talk again, and I told him I think this breakup is a good thing, because things just weren’t right. I also told him I want to get back together, but this time differently, taking things slow, accepting him 100% as is, not complaining about weed or bathroom tiles in our house-to-be because he is important to me, not the colour of tiles and other details that don’t matter at all if he’s not there with me.

He told me that he’s also having a hard time, looking at my social media profiles, wondering where am I and what I’m doing, and that he genuinely misses me, but his head is still not clear, he doesn’t know if he wants to be alone or try to fix things between us. He told me that he’s worried that we’ll get back to our old habits and the things will be the same, and that I will tell him anything at this point just to get him back. I tried to explain that he’s wrong, and that I just want a chance to prove that everything can be better than ever before. He told me that I’m pushing him again to do something he doesn’t want, but will do to make me happy, and that I’m pushing him away with that kind of behaviour. I told him even it’s hard for me, I’ll wait for his decision, but can’t promise that I won’t slip and ask him about it.

He texted me to see if I arrived safely, we exchanged some texts, and on Wednesday, I sent him a message that this time, I will give him as much space and time he needs. No conditions, we don’t have to talk if he doesn’t feel like talking, we’re not meeting until he says he wants to meet. That’s it, no hidden motive, just to prove him that I meant what I said, that it can be different and he doesn’t have to do things just because I want them, and feel bad afterwards because that’s not what he wants.

He was surprised, and told me that he appreciates it a lot.

My question here… How to do things right and not mess up from this point further? I know I shouldn’t have to tell him when we met that I don’t want to break up, that I’m a terrible mess, that I can’t see myself without him, I want him back etc., but I think I did a great step by giving him time and space to sort things out. I’m trying not to be pushy with texts, he texts me first so I know he also does want to talk to me, we exchange 10 messages each day (we texted each day, all day, before we broke up, so it’s a big change).

Any advice how to put myself together? I tried to work out, go out to meet new people, take care of my colleague’s cats, talk to friends and family back home (here I don’t have any people I hang out with besides 2 colleagues, I’m an introvert and I spent 90% of my time working and being with my BF and his friends and family) - but I can’t. Whatever I’m doing, I can’t stop thinking about our past, present, future. Only thing I can do is stress about him and how not to mess up, how to find an apartment or should I find one at all, should I move back home, will I be able to find work if I return, etc.

I lost so many hours of sleep, 10 pounds, can’t even go to work. How to get back to normal again? :frowning:

@Thalia256 OMG! I’m so sorry for your situation… it must be heart-breaking, but you have to think things through rationally. He has a serious addiction to weed! I might be wrong, but it seems he wants to be alone so he can smoke weed as much as he wants and there will be nobody there to nag him about it. So you have to ask yourself; Am I really willing to accept this man who has a serious habit of smoking weed? How would you be able to be accepting and happy with him? How will his habit affect your thoughts if you two were to have children? What you have here is two different life styles and it would be extremely difficult to mesh them together!

Relationships are about compromise when rational, such as floor tiles. But other things can’t be settled in that manner if the subject is more important to one or the other.

It’s okay that you poured your heart out to him, but the breakup is having an unhealthy effect on you. I know my suggestion will seem extreme to you, but I suggest you text him and tell him that you’re having a difficult time coping with the breakup and that you need NO CONTACT for awhile. By the sound of what you wrote, you two were texting far too much even before the breakup. Sorry, but it sounds like someone is a needy type person…

You have to force yourself to divert your obsessive thoughts away from him. You’re doing some good things, but whenever your thoughts drift back to him, the past or possible future, immediately distract yourself with something else. It will be a process and might take some time, but you can do it:)

I know that weed is addiction like any other, and I’m aware of his problem. We talked about it million times, and I finally get him now - so I changed my mind and I don’t find weed to be an issue in the future.

I also know we texted a lot, but it was working for us and neither of us wanted to do it less. Even after the break-up, neither of us can stick to no-contact. I think that texting helps in some way, I’m feeling better when I know that he still wants to share things with me. We’re really keeping it at the minimum, work-talk (our companies collaborate closely), few messages about 2-3 things we both like (tech, cars, …).

I try so hard to keep everything casual, and I’m avoiding to tell him that I miss him, want to see him, that I want him to give us another chance to do things right this time. I know this is not healthy, I try to be rational and accept the breakup, but on the other side, I can’t imagine my life without him.

I’m trying to put my life in order, work on myself, but I can’t do anything for more than 15 minutes, my mind gets overwhelmed with scenarios, past and future, and I spiral into a rabbit hole.

The only good thing is that I found an apartment this weekend and got back to work yesterday, so I’m a bit distracted by doing my job and setting everything up to move in my new place. It is still hard, but yesterday was my first day of not crying at all. Little victories :slight_smile:

I still miss him terribly. As I told him I won’t ask him to meet me until he wants, I try to stick by my words and I don’t want to appear needy and desperate - even though I know I am.

I really can’t figure out how to approach this situation: my stuff is still at his place, and I need some of them back. I can live without them for few weeks maybe, it’s nothing urgent really. On the other side, I want to see him so bad, and getting my stuff would be an excellent excuse, but I know that I will not be able to avoid talking about us if we meet. I really don’t know if that’s a good idea, I don’t want to pressure him to make a decision. I’m really scared that he will get used that I’m not there and that he’s better off without me if we don’t see each other for so long.

What to do, wait for him to ask me to meet when/if he starts missing me, or is it a good idea to ask him if I can get some of my stuff so he doesn’t get used of me not being there?

@Thalia256 Exactly how long did you live together? It seems you moved out a week ago, but continue with replies to his texts… I find it strange that you were adamant about not liking his weed habit and discussed it a million times and yet now, you’re accepting of his addiction. It seems you’re desperate and want him back at any cost, even compromising your own values. I suspect if you two got back together and he continued smoking weed, that you would be very unhappy whether you voiced it or not…

By frequent casual texting, he is getting used to thinking of you as a “friend”. But if you think staying in contact by texting is the best way to reconnect and maybe become a couple again, then continue. Curious as to whether he ever calls to talk with you on the phone?

NO, don’t ask to meet up!! As it was his idea to be alone, let him be the one to suggest it. However, since you apparently didn’t pick up all your things last week (I’m assuming you got back your mother’s necklace) and if you really need them and they aren’t large items, you could either ask him to send them to your new apartment or go pick them up. But if you see him when you go to collect your stuff or he delivers them to you, let him lead the conversation and respond appropriately. Whatever you do, don’t beg for another chance… You already poured your heart out to him, therefore he knows how you feel about the situation, so don’t push him any further about meeting or reconciliation. No need to ask about his feelings for you either… If or when he’s ready, he will be the one to communicate how he feels and what he wants. In the meantime, you need to get control over your emotions! You’re miserable (understandably) but it’s not helping you in any way what-so-ever…

You know, if he doesn’t mind holding onto your stuff for awhile, those things might remind him of you and the better times you shared together… just a thought.

It seems like he’s a nice guy (gathered from the things you’ve written) and I hope things work out for the best for both of you!

I’m glad you’re back to work, you’re in a nice apartment and enjoying getting settled there.

I’m also afraid of the possibility that I’m ready to accept his addiction only because I’m miserable and I want him back. That’s been bothering me for some time… but I’m willing to give my best to accept him as he is.

I don’t want to be his friend, I want us back together, so I know that texting him is a risky move. We were together for a little over 18 months, 13 of them living together. During that period, we talked on the phone TWICE. He will think that something’s gone completely wrong if I call him, so texting is the only option for us to keep in touch.

I try not to be pushy, I’m not asking where he is or what he’s doing, unless he tells me that kind of stuff himself. He also starts conversations, not as often as I, but that’s pretty normal for him because he’s not really a talkative person.

He started going to gym, playing computer games, driving around on his bike, so I know that he’s bored, lonely and has a lot on his mind. I don’t know if he misses me, and I don’t want to have false hope.

I decided not to come up with conversation about the rest of my stuff just yet, I’ll give him at least 2 more weeks to be alone. I think that he has no problem with my stuff being there because he knows I’m basically alone in this country, had no apartment until now, and he didn’t want to pressure me into moving everything out at once. I really hope that he wants something to remind him of me, but I’m also aware that he’s probably just trying not to burden me with moving out completely.

I hope he comes around in those 2 weeks, but I slowly started to accept that the odds are not in my favour and the breakup is probably final. If he surprises me with wanting to try again, I’ll be delighted, but I know that after a while I can find happiness without him.

Patricia12, you’ve been a sweetheart, and thanks for all your advices, it’s really helpful. I’m also talking to my sister and friend about my feelings, but they can’t get why I’m so hurt and miserable, and they’re convincing me to find someone else, go on dates, and I’m definitely not ready for that.

@Thalia256 Okay, I hope your plan about staying connected via texting and not asking for the remainder of your things for a couple of weeks works out well for you in some way…

You need to think rationally during this time. Put yourself back when you were living together and how unhappy you were with his weed smoking. Then imagine (if you get back together) he won’t give up the weed addiction and how you would feel about that. I suspect you would be very upset again.

Knowing him for 18 months and living with him for 13 months, you’ve no doubt assessed what kind of person he is as to character, morals, life goals etc… So if you truly will be able to accept that part of him of which you disapprove (the weed), even knowing it will be extremely difficult and you’ll have to hold your tongue and not nag about it, then a possible future relationship with him has some potential to be a happy one for you.

Your sister and friends hate to see you hurt and miserable, but realize there’s not much they can do about the situation as the choice is yours whether you will accept reconciliation if he asks… They want to see you happy and they also know the weed smoking bothered/upset you very much. They don’t think you will be happy going back to him and therefore suggested going on dates and finding someone else who could make you happy:) I agree with them to an extent, and if you come to a point where you realize he wants to be alone for an extended period of time, I think you should date others whenever you feel ready.

We started the no contact after all. I noticed that he’s not that into texting anymore, and asked him if he’s okay with us talking or is he just distancing himself, is there a reason for that distancing or what? He said it’s fine, but I know him and it wasn’t fine so I slipped and called him, the conversation was awfully hard for me, I cried and told him I’ll wait for him no matter what. He hinted that I shouldn’t wait for him because he’s not sure how long will it take for him to come to a decision, and right now, if he had to decide this moment, he wouldn’t get back together. He told me it’s been hard for him too, and he thinks that we can’t cool off if we talk to each other. I told him that I care about him and can’t let it go without waiting - I won’t put my life on hold, I’ll go out with friends, travel, read, anything… but I can’t give up on us just yet. That was on Saturday.

On Sunday, I sent him a message, telling him that I’m sorry about yesterday, I was a mess, and I agree with him about the no contact. I told him I’ll just need my stuff back because I can’t wait indefinitely, so we agreed to meet this weekend so I can pick them up.

On Tuesday, he broke the no contact, messaging me about a work stuff. I didn’t know what to do, so the next day (yesterday) I replied briefly, just answering the question, and leaving his answer to my answer on seen. He’s also checking my social media posts and stories, reading forums and reddit that I’m active on (I’m checking his activity every now and then, and I see him on my topics, which I know he doesn’t follow because he’s interested in anime or modern art). On the other hand, he hid his Insta- and FB-stories from me and my friends, I found out about it from a colleague at work. He posts memes and funny videos, nothing personal, maybe a picture of his bike here and there when he goes for a ride. I asked my colleague if he posted anything suggesting that he’s seeing someone, or anything out of the ordinary - he said that he posts the same things as earlier, nothing changed really. I was confused - why would he hide that from me? When did he do that? I think it was maybe around the time we agreed on no contact, possibly day before, or day after, I can’t be sure.

I’m so tired of his mixed signals… 200 different scenarios come across my mind in one minute, and I’m obsessing over details again. Why does he do that, asking for no contact, then breaking it? Lurking at my online activities, but hiding part of his (stories) from me?

I’m so scared of meeting him this weekend, I don’t know what to say, how to react, how to behave. My life just started getting slowly back on track, I started eating, one meal a day, but it’s something…, and sleeping for 4-5 hours at least, hanging out with 2 colleagues/a friend… I’m so angry at myself that this tiny thing can mess up everything that I’ve done so far to get better. I wanted to believe that he realised that he made a mistake by letting me go, that he cares about me, I got my hopes up - and then I realised that he doesn’t want to share stupidest of all things with me. Sometimes I wonder how can I be so stupid.

This has been a torture. I don’t want to accept his crumbs, I want more, I want love and respect. But every time I think of him, I can’t help myself - I know I would chose him and his crumbs over anything or anyone else. One minute, I’m the badass, good-looking computer systems expert who can point a finger and pick up someone who will fall for her instantly, but the other minute, I’m just pathetic and scared little girl who would do anything and accept anything just to have someone’s crumbs.

@Thalia256 I’m sorry to hear your sad story isn’t getting any better. Yes, he’s feeding you breadcrumbs and now you should get some self-respect and stop wishing, obsessing, and hoping anything will change for the better in the near future…

I think you’re mostly remembering only the better times of the relationship and minimizing the memories of the troubled times. All relationships have happy times, but when troubling issues are overwhelming and can’t be resolved, one partner or the other wants to end it.

There are no mixed messages! He doesn’t want to be with you! But he looks at your social media only because he’s curious, just as you look at his.

When you see him this weekend to get your things, just pick them up and don’t beg or restate your desires! There’s nothing more you can say, right? He already knows you want to get back together at any cost and under any circumstances.

Continue strict no contact (after the weekend) and don’t reply to anything he might send you!