Sorry in advanced for the long post. You wrote me a long thorough response, which I thank you for , and I wanted to return the favor.
You hit it right on the head about everything and I agree. The immaturity, games, cheating, lies, and repeating cycles perfectly sums up my ex.
During the process of breaking up she told me she loves me, but she wants to be single for awhile because there is so much life has to offer, or some bs. Literally the next day I’m out at bar with some supportive friends and we’re getting ready to go home. I see her walk out of a hookah joint and get in another guy’s car(probably the new bf). That’s where I finally decided. That will be the last time she will ever lie and cheat on me.
She does need to cut the new guy because clearly she’s not over me which isn’t fair to him. She has him there to replace me and it’s not working. He doesn’t know any of this. Although I will admit that’s on him and his own logic for trying to sign up with a girl immediately out of a 4 year relationship.
After they break up and if she still wants to pursue me then she needs to call me and pour her heart out, or at bare minimum text me and schedule a meet up. She better have a pretty good speech prepared with it. I think that’s the only scenario where this works out. Just like you said. It has to be because she realizes what shes doing is wrong in general, not just to get me back.
It really does bother me knowing you read my posts and realized this was similar behavior to your old ex. I’m sorry you had to go through what you did, because clearly you understand how bad it sucks to love and care for someone who treats us like this. No one deserves that. She is my first love, which I believe had a huge role in why this went on for so long.
Do I really want her back. That’s the big question. I feel she has so much potential to be everything I want in a girl, but she surrounds herself with the wrong people and can’t think rationally on her own. Which unfortunately go together because she seeks out her bad influence of friends when she can’t decide on something. I don’t think she’s stupid, but more so immature. That’s now a deal breaker for me and I will not go back to that. I know I can find someone way better than what her current self offers.
That last sentence about “realizing what she’s doing is not helpful to all involved”. I couldn’t have said it better myself. If there is one thing she is notorious for it’s not putting herself in someone else shoes. That might be the single thing she needs to learn in order to become that person I’m looking for. I hope that her losing me and having to be more independent will help her achieve this.
Your comment didn’t upset me at all. It’s actually uplifting for me to know that others, like yourself, have gotten through this. It also helps me knowing that you were in a identical situation. You basically took a lot of what was on my mind and put it in place for me. Now its just more healing/time and things will continue to look up for me.
Thanks again for taking the time to give me your opinion and share with me about your similar experiences. I appreciate it.